November 25, 2008
Posted: 105 GMT

ROME, Italy – Vatican watchers had considered the possibility of a black pope long before Barack Obama stepped into the limelight announcing his candidacy. When it comes to a black cardinal who could be pope, one name that Vatican watchers often float is that of Francis Arinze of Nigeria, the only African who currently holds a top job in the Curia, as the Vatican's government is called.

 

When in April 2005 cardinals met in the Sistine Chapel to elect John Paul II's successor there was not just talk, but real hope that the first non-Italian pope in centuries would be succeeded by the first African pope.

 

Yet once again a white man from the first world got the job, and it's been that way for centuries.

 

Wilfried Cardinal Napier of Durban, South Africa, says that whenever there is a gathering of human beings you are going to find a degree of discrimination. "It might not be as obvious, it might not be even consciously done" he told me, but there is a perception that "candidates from that part [Africa], they haven't got a long tradition, so how could they possibly move up the line?"

 

In fact one of the first popes 1,800 years ago is believed to be from Africa. Victor I is often credited with being the first black pope, although historians disagree whether he was black or even born in Africa.

 

In the early 60s there was hardly a black cardinal; today there are 17 of them.

 

Catholicism has grown faster in Africa than anywhere else in the world and today 13 percent of the world's Catholic population lives in Africa.

 

So what's stopping the next pope from being a black man?

 

Well first of all popes serve for life, and talks of a papal successor are premature at best. Secondly most analysts and even some African cardinals admit that should the next pope come from the developing world he would probably be a Latin American, where half of today's 1.1 billion Catholics live.

 

Few cardinal agree to comment on the records about a papal successor. But individually they all agree that during papal elections it's neither race nor American politics that matter, but the Holy Spirit.

 

And HE is really unpredictable.  

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Wubitu   November 25th, 2008 757 GMT

This race issue is really amazing. Even as a Christian knowing that we all are created by one God, Black Pope, Black president……. Black. Please do not judge a human being by its color. Let us change our views toward blacks. Blacks are intelligent, beautiful, smart, funny, rich and poor. They are human beings! Please trust blacks and give them a chance.

Jimmie   November 25th, 2008 823 GMT

This world is still beeing ruled, by a small proportion of die hard white, as i may put it. However a time is coming, when colour will not be consider as a basis for leadership.
After God has created the world. He sat down and looked and said everything that i have created is perfect.

If God be for us, who can be against us?

A Black man will surely be a Pope one day.

Anne   November 25th, 2008 1240 GMT

I wonder why Obama is called Black. To me he is half Black, half White. It is a case of a half empty /half full glass? Even then, if look back you find that the "white" part is many things – European, Irish, Norse, Vikings, celtic germans, Celtic Gauls and all the European people who imigrated to Americas. Is all that white? Okay...

Bruce Rubin   November 25th, 2008 1255 GMT

How about a Jewish Pope.

Hannington Taabu[KENYA]   November 25th, 2008 1339 GMT

Lord is greater than all of us one day,
one day we will have a black Pope no matter how many years it will take!

Darren   November 25th, 2008 1413 GMT

Obama is as white as he is black. Why does the American media insist on calling him the first black president or the first non-white president? BTW Jesus was born brown in Palestine.

Peace Werner-meier   November 25th, 2008 1503 GMT

Black or white should not be an issue when intergrity and loyality is concerned the next pope should be a clean and god fearing man whether black or white it doesnt matter, in away this is another error of bleeding racism by emphasising on colour than the acheivements and mental capabilities of individuals. Obama is as capable as all the previous presidents of USA and will fail where any othe president balck or white could have failed stop this race issue please.

Michael   November 25th, 2008 1522 GMT

I would like to see a Chinese or Mongolian pope. Hey, what about a Latin American Pope. No, wait; an Inuit Pope or a Pope from that little sliver of Russian territory (that used to be Prussia) between the baltic states and Poland.

I could care less if the pope was Black, white, brown, yellow, etc. As long as he is true to his faith, my faith. This is not about what the people want; it is about what God (for us believers) allows humans to do. Remember free will?

ojong   November 25th, 2008 1936 GMT

Anne and Darren you are absolutely right Obama is not a black.
Alessio V
Unlike Obama I am a black Roman Catholic Christian I fervently beleive in Jesus Christ and I see him in so many forms- he is black he is white he is brown he is alive and he teaches me to love everyone irrespective of race.
White or black Pope- Peter's succesion is guaranteed. God bless the world Ojong,Cameroon

Kris   November 25th, 2008 2111 GMT

To Bruce Rubin:
But we did have a Jewish pope. The first pope whom Jesus chose himself was Jewish – he's St. Peter or Simon Peter, the man who denied knowing Jesus three times, the man who decided to die upside down on the cross because he thought himself unworthy to be crucified right side up. One of our first Christian martyrs. Jewish by birth but Christian by choice. It doesn't matter what our color is; it's our faith and spirit that counts in the eyes of God.

Syed Shahed Imam   November 26th, 2008 740 GMT

I don't see any problem, as long he is a human being and works for the humanity

kevin belfast   November 26th, 2008 1735 GMT

ah who cares? these priests have raped boys for the past 50 or 60 years. they are a nasty bunch of perverts. who cares who will be the next pope. in fact who cares about the catholic church or religion in general. wake up america. these priests and bishops, and cardinals are all sickos. if not not sickos they are just take take taking our money

Mathew Morais   November 28th, 2008 411 GMT

Why not? If a German can be a pope, so can any man of any colour, why play God when He created all of us, different colours that we all are!

david lulasa   November 28th, 2008 848 GMT

i dont care which colour the future of one of the pope would be.God created man in His image and so colour aint a big thing......am anxious to see a man made robot do some human jobs..i know its possible for people even to clone a person who would end up being a leader of any kind.

tambua,hamisi,kenya.

Julian Escotte   November 28th, 2008 912 GMT

I still don't know why people care about the color of your skin or the place you come from. To me it doesn't matter, for all I care, what's important is that a person could deliver. In this case a possible black pope is real emminent possibility, why?, for as the bible states " we created in the same image and likeness of God". So it doesn't matter if the color of the skin is black or even if his nationality is not western all that matters is that the person in that position fulfills his role...

Ding Iking   December 1st, 2008 1125 GMT

God created all man equal regardless of our physical appearances and attributes. As long as that man is a man of God and the Holy Spirit is present in his heart!

" The apostle Paul asked Church brethren why they would judge another since each person has to answer to God. He said we should rather judge ourselves " Romans 14:4,10

sarah   December 2nd, 2008 1127 GMT

what about a chinese pope,colour doesnt come into it once u beleive in god ull be ok

Was Buf., Now Was.   December 2nd, 2008 1514 GMT

You're forgetting that John Paul II was not a white man from the first world. He was a white man from the second world– Communist Poland– which was a huge step for the church in the midst of the Cold War.

Also, most Vatican-watchers know Benedict is just a placeholder between JP2 and the next big thing– who may just well be African–because of his advanced age. Remember, though, that there's never been an pope from the Western Hemisphere either, and with the enormous numbers of Latin American catholics and the PR coup that would be an American pope, Africans may just have to wait their turn...

Mekhong Kurt   December 4th, 2008 1530 GMT

It sure is refreshing to see such near-unanimity that color and nationality don't matter - and I'm not even Catholic.

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