Long live ignorance!

Well, if it turns out bad, it is going to be really BAD. Good thing is.... There will be 'no' regrets, I am sure of that.

I believe the money used in this experiment is way too much unnecessary,it should been invested in countries where people earn far less than a dollar, a day,or it could have beeninvested in research diseases that hamper human life.

Well, after reading, –"FLIP IT BABY" - it is good to read about it -ahead of time! In today's fast technology one more experience
sounds interesting and sort of "UNIQUE" – this time -
May we wait for that Big Bang and may we after it happens,
realize that we are still "here" and that another step has gone forward in that search for the "unknown" and may it be for the
best of all on earth.

What the hell is going on with these cientist, they seem to be going out of their minds, don't we have enough trouble on this world of ours, with terrorists wars , which should not have been strarted in the first place I say the world must gather all it's, religias people of all the world, and destroy that instrument or what ever it is called, that puts all of the world in danger. and the time is now, till it might be to late, not only the religias people, but also all the biggest leaders of this world, but uptill now , nothing has been heard by the world to stop it for good. Victor Vishnevsky

the test may or may not be successful, but with whatever they find there will just be more to search out. if there is an end to existence on earth if will only come because of man's selfishness and stupidity
it is a shame to see all that money waster on a stupid theory such as the big bang when it could be put into good research to cure people or good resources to better some unfortanates in life.
i'm in paris near the area, if i feel a buzz or better from it i will let you all know. God said let there be light, but man loves searching out the dark and hidden things

We're all going to die!!!!!!!!!!!!! don't turn it on!!!! we are dead meat, don't do it!!!!!

Well, the article "flip it baby" did not have anything to say, let alone add to other previous articles on CNN International. It was, to say the least rather flippant.
Be that as it may, my point of view is not so much as to how many scientists and physicists have been deployed on the scheme as to its being of "good value", but rather how much of what may be discovered can serve humanity – and then we can begin to talk about whether 6 billion dollars have been well spent.
I do not believe in the "Big Bang", so do not believe that they will find it in CERN-LHC. What they MAY find – I hope – is something much more important: cheap, infinitely renewable ecological energy.
After all, whilst conducting these experiments, how much energy are they using 100 metres below the lovely French-Swiss Alpine countryside?

Interesting I must say. But other than hopefully finding something accidentally like the "WWW" that will be of great use to everyone in this world... seems a big price to pay. Finding the source of life and the big bang theory etc etc seems a bit far fetched and unnecessary. Spend the money on the REAL LIFE things... the needy... what do the needy people care about where they came from when they don't even know where their next meal (if any) is coming from? We're just feeding the greed of knowledge-hungry, egotistical, I-think-I'm-smarter-than-you scientists. God save us from another tower of Babel.

oh my god!!!!well i just hope that we would be all still alive
i still have kids and i want them to live longer and experience what life
really means...

It was my understanding that they are just turning the Hadron Collider on tomorrow, testing it to make sure it is operating properly and not actually performing any high-energy collisions until October 21. Hmmm...regardless, no advancements or discoveries would ever be made without taking a risk. And while no one can say for sure what will happen, I feel confident that with the number of top scientists from around the world working on this project, they would probably have some idea of what they are doing.

well i really hope that this thing work out just fine
and that it will not create that big black hole thing....
but come to think of it,if it works all questions will be
answered annd we will all know were we really came from...

Did anyone ever think to ask the rest of us if this is okay? Is this acceptable behavior?

I would like to know who approved this? Why are we just now finding out about this HUGE news story? I think I have some answers.

1. If this had been news to the general public before the 8 BILLION dollars was spent I think the whole project would have been scrapped due to public outcry of wasted money.

2. Now that the secret has been released to the public, if it fails, scientists have just found a way to ensure more money is thrown at the Non-Problem?

3. Another reason, can you imagine the politicians that approved this spending trying to justify this budgetary debacle? They would have all guaranteed themselves a one term career,

I am not putting down science. Gazing at the stars with the love of my life has always been one of our favorite pastimes. However, come on, 8 billion dollars? Could that not have been spent somewhere else? Of all the problems facing the world today, the only thing we could find to spend 8 BILLION (sorry, I just can't get over it) on something that does nothing for the greeater good of the people.

All this, and I haven't even contemplated the effects of this turning out to be our "End of Days"....

If this is really about the "big bang" then it's 6B wasted because God will shut them down. They're playing with fire and they're gonna get burned.

$6 billion? Really? Couldn't we wipe the debt in some poor countries first before we try to 'play God'? " In the beginning the Word already existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God. He existed in the beginning with God. God created everything through him, and nothing was created except through him. The Word gave life to everything that was created, and his life brought light to everyone." John 1 NLT

So, what is the purpose of this experiment? Will it make a better world? will it help prevent wars?
Would this money not have been better spent on feeding the starving children all over the world?

Knowing how the universe started out, is not going to help us at all.

In my opinion it is a dangerous thing what they are planning to do and totally irresponsible. I sure hope that they will be stopped.
I'm pretty close to the happening and who knows what will happen, we might not even be here to find out.

One small step for CERN, one giant leap for Mankind.

I was very, very disappointed to read this article. In the end Becky isn't convinced and supposedly neither should you be. But why not? One word: Ignorance.

The problem is the American public just doesn't understand what is going on a CERN and the American education system and media just haven't done enough to educate people. If they had you would see how ridiculous the fears of instant worldwide annihilation are.

Instead of looking forward to the great discoveries that no doubt will come out of the LHA, you have what should be the most advanced nation on Earth cowering in fear like the ancient cavemen watching an eclipse.

The world will not end tomorrow. Nor will it end in 2012. These aren't the Final Days and millions of years after humans have disappeared the Earth and the universe around it will just go in ticking.

I was very, very disappointed to read this article. In the end Becky isn't convinced and supposedly neither should you be. But why not? One word: Ignorance.

The problem is the American public just doesn't understand what is going on a CERN and the American education system and media just haven't done enough to educate people. If they had you would see how ridiculous the fears of instant worldwide annihilation are.

Instead of looking forward to the great discoveries that no doubt will come out of the LHC, you have what should be the most advanced nation on Earth cowering in fear like the ancient cavemen watching an eclipse.

The world will not end tomorrow. Nor will it end in 2012. These aren't the Final Days and millions of years after humans have disappeared the Earth and the universe around it will just go in ticking.

However, if you need to check just go to this web page:
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/

I think it´s more probable that an asteroid passing near earth sucks all the oxygen of our planet than a nano black hole was accidentally created in this experiment. I recommend reading the March 2008 National Geographic.

I do hope this event will be broadcast live. That way, if a black hole is accidentally created that will eventually swallow the whole earth, then at least we will be able to see it happening. With some advance warning, at least we can do something to protect ourselves. We might even have enough time to get away!

Yeah, right.

Wow–seems like straight out of a Kurt Vonnegut novel ("Slapstick" comes to mind).

Well, there's not much we can do about it, folks...

BTW, how long would it take a small black hole to swallow up the Earth, anyhow? Would we have one last time to go out and party?!?

Its definately a unique test.Once in a lifetime we get to see such test. Big Bang will open some unrevealed theories of the time when Earth was created but to some extent its is also true that an experiment with the laws of nature can be unfavorable for "Mankind".May we get some unspoken stories of universe!!!

We knew that when a horseless carrage got to 30 miles per hour, all the air would be sucked out of our lungs and we would die.

So, here at the brink of conceivable global eradication, we may , for maybe the last time, take brief pause and consider whether Life and the Universe are (were) just freakish developments, a vast line of happenstance occurances that could have lead anywhere; or if maybe human science, carried away, willfully ignoring its basic shortcomings, are risking just a little too much in trying to decode the deeper logic of the Cosmos...? The world´s biggest nerds with the world´s biggest train set seem religiously won over to the notion of a sensible, even somewhat predictable, logical Universe.

Here in Africa,we are too busy trying to survive to know about these.we are far left behind technologicilly and too poor to afford such international infos.
God's in control is always our prayer.

The LHC is the completion of a long process that has started more than 40 years ago in Geneva. Today will be remembered and written in history! May we thank all the scientist that have worked so hard for it.

We are all so excited to see what will be the new surprises and new unknown to be discovered.

I know of at least one person that would have loved to be there... Einstein!

Personally, i am excited at the possibilities that this experiment will create. For ages, man has often tried to find answer to the existence of the universe. In answering those questions, we came only as close as saying there is God and there is a theory called Big Bang. Both theories claim to conveniently answer the question of the existence of the cosmos but never before was it proven. This is the chance for humankind to at least try to unravel the mystery of matter, mass, gravity, black hole and how it all began with some evidence.
good luck to all behind it.

Why would any nation back this project, especially the United States. There is a question of whether this could bring about the end of the world or not. Those scientist in all reality have no clue what will happen afterwards, they have nothing to go off of. I think that it should be shut down immediately. This is not an invention that will help to cure cancer, ure any disease, or in all reality do anything for the people who realize that there is something bigger than just the earth out there. The US has a war going on that cost somewhere around a billion dollars a day and we come up with money out of no where to support 10,000 people who have no clue what there messing with. We cant play God. Where no match for him.

This is unreasonableness!
They have NO right to put under danger all life!!!
Way governments are so trustfull?????

The science is only hypothetical!
Science have NO so sure knowlidge that to have right to make such experiments

What's funny is that this is supposed to be something huge !

Yet I do not understand what you are talking about! I mean is it a new nuclear experiment? Is it the Internet 2? Is it a CERN commercial?

Regardless ill make sure to choose carefully who ill be with today.

Kind regards,
Bassim.

i think this experiment is going to go very wrong and turn our swith to life off

Well in any way we cannot stop this THING from tearing up our planet.. could'nt we?? Even if all of the people of this planet will say stop this CHAOTIC experiment and to better things wont do.. because white people rule the world and white people will decide whether what will happen to the world.. I hope GOD will do his own thing regarding this experiment of this mind-freaks. Maybe all of the people living in this planet is praying that some miracle would happen that will stop this. And hopefully this mind-freaks will have the belief that GOD really made this plnet and not by their theoretically explained beliefs..

Becky I have a suggestion, dumb down this post a bit more and you will eventually hit the earth's core.

I'm sorry for the decline of the US in physics science to the point of having some people "sue" over an experiment as crucial as this one.

One of the reasons for such extreme reaction is the failure (by scientific organizations and the media) to help the general public become familiar with basic physics principles, you definitely need a new CARL SAGAN, I'm quite sure -were he alive- he would be right now shedding light on this matter with a deep, complete and understandable insight.

I don't see anyone at CNN being your expert on applied sciences and posts like this though they might generate interest are not helping.
For example:
What do you mean "take sides" there is no taking sides when it comes to experimenting and research, and 10,000 scientist is not "probably" a good idea, it's an excellent idea what do you have to be convinced about or what aren't you convinced about?

Cheers.

Ricardo, Paris, France.

If it does make black holes, they should run with it, and market it as a new way to dispose of waste, I've got a lot of junk around the house.

This is truly a mega waste of Money that could have been spent feeding and saving peoples lives.

Thank you Ricardo! (see above)!

First of all: let´s not discuss the relevancy of this experiment. I´m pretty convinced that 10000 of the best scientist worldwide have a pretty good idea of the risks. And note that they will begin at a fraction of the full capacity and it´ll take a couple of years more untill they´ll reach full capacity. So don´t worry, you´ll reach the weekend just fine!

Let´s put the price tag of this scientific experiment in contrast – mind the word CONTRAST – with the cost of the Iraq war. 6 billion in 13 years for the construction of the LHC 600 billion (roughly) in 5 years for the Iraq war. And the long-term cost is estimated at 4 trillion.

I guess I needn´t say more... ?

Read up on it and find out how interesting this his!

Justin
Valencia

http://www.economist.com/science/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10952790#top

Justin
Valencia, Spain

Love all the talk about "playing God".

How about you use your God-given intelligence to read up on the LHC and discover why it is a Very Good Thing and the fact it is in Europe is a sign of America's decline in the field of scientific research.

WOW, im still alive! I live close to the swiss borden (Freiburg, Germany) and nothing has happend. ;-)
This is going to be the worlds most exciting experiment ever!!! 9 billion is also quite cheap. Those religiouse fundamentalists are just scared that everything they believe is wrong. Get a new hobby like gardening.....

"oh my god!!!!well i just hope that we would be all still alive
i still have kids and i want them to live longer and experience what life
really means…"

exactly, thats one of the reasons why this project was realised. face it, our world is slowly coming to an end. the benefits this experiment can bring the world are well worth the costs. (btw, this experiment is pretty cheap if you look at the costs for example the iraq war, wich resultet for sure not in a safer world..). this project has the potential to change science, medicine, technology and alot more in a way the way we need it, BIG.

to the risks, simply nonsens. this exeriment does nothing nature doesnt do all day long around our planet and its atmosphere. the difference here its just that its alot "underpowered" than nature, and in a safe enviroment to observate it.

im really looking forward to the first results

Some of the ignorance (and I never use that word lightly) on this board simply amazes me.

Yeah, why would we want to know more about the universe? We are so happy here on our little planet, with our little problems, why should we worry that we are not even a needle in a haystack of the entire universe? Why should we experiement and attempt to discover more about our surroundings? Im sure "God" gave us a brain because he wants us to sit on earth, forever and ever, until we all just die. God would never want us to explore, or to search for answers, right? He just gave us a little book, here read this and dont worry about anything else!! And of course, YOU must know God's wishes, because he speaks to you, right? Did you ever think God WANTED us to explore our universe? Maybe he doesnt want us to just sit on earth and rot?

I have news for you people. "God", or whoever created this reality we are in, would not give you a brain if he didnt want you to use it for yourself. Now, if you used that brain, you would see that we spend more in ONE month on the Iraq war then this entire experiment costs. So dont give me this we have hunger and terrorists and whatever other problem you think money can solve. We have an obligation as HUMANS to explore the universe, not just the earth, and to understand the way the world around us works.

This week, the existence of parallel universes and extra dimensions may be confirmed. Yes, another version of you is running around in another universe, and there are an INFINITE amount of universes. But no, why would we want to explore that? Lets sit on earth with our Bibles, Korans, and rot. God just wants us to be familiar with a book, all this other stuff is just nonsense, right?

Before you ignorant high and mighty decide to post a comment dissing one of the greatest scientific experiements of our time, think about your own life. What are you here for? What is your purpose? If its to post negative comments on experiments that try to better understand OUR ENTIRE EXISTENCE, consider it "mission accomplished".

As of today 9-10-08 we have heard that the BIG BANG took place
and it is a matter of waiting for more results on this project.......
I do agree with another person who wrote in these comments that
this amount of money could have been used for a better purpose:
Help poorer people who need help in research on illness etc......
How true! It really is a great concern, when you read in these past
days also, about poorer countries that have been victims of storms, hurricanes and some have died because food did not arrive on time- Example: Haiti - So much can be done to help others in distress.......Why spend so much in a project that really is not so
much needed now? It seems unfair to nature, to human life to
spend so much while people die in the 21 rst Century because
there is not a real humanitarian way to give priority to the needy ones.

Nima Arkani-Hamed’s theory has actually existed in Shintoism (the native religion of Japan ) for many many centuries. The Japanese alphabet is based on the sounds of the universe. Nima’s string theory says the world is made of extremely small vibrating loops called strings. Like cords. Musical?

by Johnson Sensei (Jikishinkan Aikido Dojo )
Kotodama involves sounds that are viewed as the fundamental sounds of the universe. The incorporation of these sounds into chanting rituals allows the chanter to connect with the basic building blocks of sound that make up the universe. For instance, the sound “SU” is viewed as the sound created when the universe suddenly exploded out of nothingness. From a cosmology perspective, SU is the sound of the “big bang” itself. What is particularly interesting to note is that recently, scientists examining the sky for the background radiation from the big bang have discovered waves that are the remnants of the actual “sound” produced by the big bang at the moment of the creation of the universe. In essence, current state of the art science in the field of cosmology has validated the most basic premise of Kotodama, that there was in fact a sound produced at the very instant of the creation of the universe.

As far as how this will benefit mankind, the purpose is to expand our concept of the various philanthropic venues along which to direct any course of aid.
For this we must discover that fundamental concept. With its power harnessed in the creative patterns (minds) of educated intellectuals, it will prove a guidance toward optimal expression of all spirit and soul. Governing dynamics. The small always constitutes the large – any scale.

To the naysayers of this investment, I remind you that it is matter that sustains us; it is matter that are diseases and their cures; solutions to the spread of pathogens and epidemics. And it is the mediums through which they interact that must be adjusted to affect their reactionary tendencies towards our medicinal, restorative, or otherwise genial goals. Limited resources preclude the solution of trying to fund limitless reparations.

This is not a solution to the presently occurring, active problems we face. It aims to unveil the processes by which we may manipulate our interactive world to prevent these types (future evolutions) of problems from ever arising. To cut off the energy source that feeds roots is to destroy the weeds before they become bothersome. Eventual problems, then, will technically only exist in the minds of those predicting them. ( – and preventing them from ever affecting those who would be lamentably afflicted).

No suffering came from a painful idea that never materialized.

This is not intended to revise nor amend our book of life. It will instead produce a whole new language with which to describe everything – using conceptual symbols derived from the permutations of this fundamental discovery.

It is not simply to confirm or deny the Big Bang theory. That conclusion may be a side-effect of that which the discovery is proposed to reveal. If the Big Bang did occur, then something preceded it. It is that precedent fundamental thing their spyglass is searching for and focused on.

Critique please.

Oh and… we really have to STOP materializing GOD into a person who gets angry, mad, happy , sad, hungry, etc.

GOD is so , oh sooo very much above and beyond our existance and understanding. Omnipotent, Omniscient, and Omnibenevolent. How can anyone actually expect that GOD will have a human reaction to all this such as anger?

PURE ENERGY. Positive and negative but never good or bad.

What in our little, diminute insignificance makes us think we can actually begin to underestand how GOD will react to all this?

We are nothing!

How can this world of ours keep quiet about such an experiment, why does the medie world wide keeps quite, why does the religious cumunities keep quiet whether they are Christians, Muslims or any other kind of religion, there must be more to this then it was divulgated, to put the whole eath in danger, is a sansational news, yet they talk more about the Ike's distruction then anything else I just cannot understand, will some one put me in date!

Hello Becky, 48 comments, eh? on Flip It. I scanned no more than 10, I guess and got tired of our typical "late model" human species... all worried about the unknown.... What if.... we die??? What if.... I can't see my kids finish college, what if... Well, I'm sort of a realist. At 86 I have no other choice. I've "done" WW2 and put 2 kids thru their life so as to have no worries.... I outlived 2 beautiful women who did their own "What If"....and found out what worked and what not, so.... my point is: whatever we do... we cannot ever alter nature and science so we always play within its borders. This planet has spiralled for jillions of years thru all kinds of natural phenomenae to make us wonder and will continue to do so far beyond our own lifespans.... so what's the worry. William the Conquerer died in 1061 or there about and didn't leave a dent, Napoleon and Hitler and Nero lived their fantastically recorded lifes and nothing changed:- people are still at each others' throats, Jezus was nailed to a cross and human species are still as mean as before, all the Gods have been humanly invented for the others' demise, smaller critters are being consumed by bigger critters.... so what else is NEW?? If and when the Dems and Reps join together in one big coalition with the Independents and locked up Muslim watching Hillary and Sarah make a deal to last at least 24 years or prosperity for the benefit of US mankind, then that will be NEW....!! Donah//// 'See you via the Satellite Becky.... Say Hi to CNN.... !!

PP/S:- Why the CERN cracker wasn't built on US soil?? With all the evangelists at each others' throats there wouldn't be enough money to make sure the whole thing wouldn't blow up in their faces.... So let the OTHERS do it 100 meters below the beautiful French/Swiss landscape.... without "spilling" US tax payers money. Americans hate to spend devalued US Dollars on anybody else.....
Your's effah, Donah////

Uptill now no news has come out of that project that wanted to immitate the Big Bank, and I think none will come, because the scientist have already recieved their money, and I am sure they will go to the famous, Casino, near by, of Monte Carlo to spend what they got for not achieving nothing, I sometimes dream to be Obamas deligate for the up coming race to the white house, I am sure by now I would have a couple of million dollars at my disposal, some world we live in today, coruption, is every were including south America, that is were I am from!