September 9, 2008
Posted: 1539 GMT

MOSCOW, Russia - It's like a flashback to the old days of the cold war, isn't it? Russian nuclear warships probing U.S. naval defenses, anti-submarine aircraft being deployed by the Kremlin in a country vehemently opposed to Washington, in this case the Venezuela of Hugo Chavez.

Russian warships are being deployed in the Caribbean.
Russian warships are being deployed in the Caribbean.

Of course, Moscow says it's announcement of naval exercises with Caracas is in no way related to the escalating tensions with the U.S. over Russia's invasion of the former soviet state of Georgia last month, a U.S. ally and enthusiastic NATO-wannabe. But does anyone really believe that?

What I do know is that Russians see this as a totally legitimate answer to the appearance of U.S. ships in the Black Sea to deliver aid to war ravaged Georgia (many Russians are convinced the aid deliveries are a cover to rearm the tiny country).

Oddly enough, I was chatting to Vladimir Putin about this very issue the other day.

In fact, it was the only time I've ever chatted with Russia's powerful prime minister, and the first time CNN has chatted with the former KGB agent in eight years!

Still, chat we did, about those U.S. ships.

Here we are in Sochi, he said, and not 100 km (60 miles) away from us, your warships are patrolling. These same ships carry missiles, Putin said, whose range is 100 km (60 miles).

How should Russia feel about this, he asked. These are not our ships off your coast!

Well maybe Putin now wants Americans to know how it feels.

Before you run for your nuclear bunker, though, remember we are not on the brink of nuclear holocaust, even if Russia's naval squadron, of four or five rusting ships, ever makes it to the Caribbean Sea.

Things may be feeling much chillier than before in relations between Russia and the West, especially the United States.

But make no mistake, this is still no cold war.

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Thea Khoperia   September 9th, 2008 1636 GMT

It was truth about Russia's "rusting ships", as is their leadership. No they have started mssing things up in the Ukraine. The question I have is, why not recognize the independence of Chechnya, Tatarstand and other provinces of Russia, before Russian KGB agent PM exterminates them forever? Russian leadership has super double standards in dealing with similar issues.

Thea Khoperia   September 9th, 2008 1644 GMT

Putin has KGB agents on every key position. That is why Russian officials are so unanimous in their views. The world probably does not realize yet what dangerous people those are. This is a special species of people. And Mr. Putin has turned into a dictator alredy, but before he turnes into a dictator more dangerous than Stalin or Hitler (for which he aparently has excellent skills and talent), better take some measures and stop him.
How does Medvedev dare call another country's president a "political corpse"? WHat is he himself? A spoiled puppet? Does he have his opinion on anything, or did Putin dictate him how to refer to citizens of other sovereign countries?
Georgia is fed from being under Russia for more than 2 centuries. Russians shudl leave this country once and forever. It should realize that the times for empires have gone. It will have to, sooner or later.

Brazil   September 9th, 2008 1713 GMT

It is amazing to see the double standards foreign policy of the US government. The US supported and even encouraged the independence of Kosovo, but now is against the same rule to be applied to South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

The US imposed an inhumane blockade on Cuba because it doesn’t want Russian influence close to its borders, but feels it is right to interfere in Russian neighbors.

The US government, by his then Secretary of State James Baker promised that NATO was not going to expand to the East. Once again in history the US does it again. Why people all over the world do not believe the US government? Because it doesn’t matter who speaks on behalf of that government, his or her world is worth nothing. When the moment comes, the US government will break any promise or agreement it has made. That is the source of this problem.

Evgeny   September 9th, 2008 1725 GMT

Political things = cynical things!
I suppose it is Russia's response to thе US!
there is no question about it!

Morice   September 9th, 2008 1836 GMT

I agree with Russia, Bush should see what it feels like having a Nuclear weapon close to his border that can distroy his cites like the cites of so many Countries he distroyed.
Bush I love America but I believe you will bring this great Country to it's knees.

You should go to prison for all the innocent civilians you killed in Afghanistan reciently.
A lot of these Nations leaders are your puppet and I am happy that Russia stands up to you.

Morice

Victor   September 9th, 2008 1926 GMT

It was indeed very unwise of Mr Bush to send his rocketry into Black Sea. Firstly, a simple technichal glitch on either side can result in nuclear Armageddon. Secondly, American warships are extremely vulnerable while cruising Black Sea. Even Germans did not risk to enter Black Sea during World War II. I remember CNN video clip with captain of USS McFaul on his arrival to Georgian port of Batumi. While speaking to the welcome party, he was glancing nervously at his ship from time to time as if to convince himself that the ship is still there. In some CNN video clips the city of Batumi was called "Butami". So much for American caring about Georgia.

JCOrtiz   September 9th, 2008 1950 GMT

dangerous people???...So russian are the bad guys in this movie?...Sorry I can't see the who the "heroes" are ...

richy   September 9th, 2008 1957 GMT

There is never a time evil will prevail against Good. Russia can never be compared with US even if when the US has erred in some areas. Russia is rich in energy resources but the citizens are poor , scattered all over western countries of europe, living a normal life . If russia is not a mess and a force which stands for evil, they would probably be better off. Can someone tell me what is Good about Russia?????? EUROPE must know that time has passed for soft deplomacy, if not Putin will take all of them for a ride.

Alexander (St.-Petersburg, Russia)   September 9th, 2008 2030 GMT

Well, I really do not see any big problem with all those beautiful ships, either American or Russian. Surely, almost anyone may be quite displeased if a tank appeared near your backyard – but if you are absolutely sure that this tank will not fire or actually press into your property – then it is just an annoyance, no more than that. Well, quite unfriendly, but certainly not hostile.

As for that beautiful American warship, which turned in Poti – well, we all were lucky that there weren't any trouble with she there. Even elementary technical trouble with it might be considered as sabotage, any accident – as a diversion... God forbid, she may struck some 20-year old stray mine – well, she probably wouldn't sink, but it would be damaged – and guess, who will be guilty attacker?

As for tentative Russian warships near Venezuela – well, not the best answer, of course... maybe slightly less stupid (just because it is considered as an answer), but comparable. Hopefully this tour will not be actually taken, but if it happens – still no much worry. Surely Uncle Sam knows very well that those ships will not fire to US or go to American territorial waters without permission.

Better look for missiles in Poland – it is much more serious issue.
Naturally, a dozen or so anti-missiles isn't a noticeable threat by itself. But it looks as just a first step. When there will be those missiles on place, they should be guarded and defended properly, right? Therefore that defense must be provided. And that defense, in turn will require next layer of defense etc. etc.

Alexander (St.-Petersburg, Russia)   September 9th, 2008 2054 GMT

It may be of some interest to compare a probable reaction on firing accident with those (US and Russian) warships.

1) Suppose, fire broke out (well, electrical trouble) on that American warship near Poti and by very unlucky chain of events, a rocket fired in random direction, landed in Russian Government residence near Sochi and exploded there. No one was killed, though – we were lucky at least with that.

2) Suppose, fire broke out (well, electrical trouble) on that Russian heavy cruiser near Venezuela and by very unlucky chain of events, a rocket fired in random direction, landed near governor's building in Florida and exploded there. No one was killed, though – we were lucky at least with that.

Now please imagine reactions in both cases and decide – which will be stronger... and why?

txkboy   September 12th, 2008 1244 GMT

Here it goes. Every Russian analyst knows that Putin wants a warm water port and what's better than a third world dictator with oil. Russia has sent it's ships and, now, bombers to Venezuela. Trust that Putin could care less about the affairs of Venezuela and is more focused on having a Russian satellite country in the Western Hemisphere. Since the Russian relation with Cuba has cooled off considerably. Cuba felt like the Russians gave them the "short end of the stick", which, in fact, they had. It just took Cuba awhile to realize it. In order for Putin to silence his critics at home, he wants to prove to them and the Politbureau that he still maintains control and can weld Russian power with the wave of his arm.

Robert A   September 16th, 2008 119 GMT

Why is it that Western news media (eg CNN) do not report the truth?
WHO STARTED THE CONFLICT?
OSCE and NATO both acknowledge that Georgia started the conflict by shelling the Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali a full 12 hours before any reaction from Russia.
DISPORTIONATE FORCE BY RUSSIA?
Georgia amassed over 12,000 troops to attack South Ossetia, there was a planned blitz to the Roki tunnel. Georgia forces attacked at 10:35 PM 8/07.
Russia reacted the following day with 5500 troops to South Ossetia.
ETHNIC CLEANSING
EU Court of Human Rights have received hundreds of complaints about ethnic cleansing by the Georgian army. This was confirmed ny the EU court that ethnic cleansing did occur.

I always hoped there was a free and independant media in the US, apparently not. I think I'll move to Canada.

Eraneo   September 18th, 2008 119 GMT

Yet again world leaders talk of peace. But as mortal human beings, with to much testosterone and power, the probability is that they will set the stage to engage in yet another conflict that further threatens global peace & economic stability.

A big problem here is the lack of a united world authority with the power to really slap the wrist of the leaders who behave irresponsibly, and the rouge leaders.
Changes need to be made to in the very foundations of our political structures. Many of the worlds most serious problems, Wars, Starvation, Energy Crisis, Social Injustices, Rouge Dictators, Political Blunders. often have a common obstacle in the way of the global efforts needed for their solutions.
Our Leaders & those who have the power to influence change are extremely inefficient in doing so, as they often lack the relevant experience & therefore are rarely on the same page to begin with.

Think about it' your our job demands that you have relevant qualifications. Would you be surprised to learn that most politicians have no qualifications in an area that they need them most? The Social science's Development Studies, Deontological Ethics, Sociology..

SOCIOCULTURAL EVOLUTION; One of the most important changes that could take place in the 21st century, would be to see it been made a mandatory requirement, that politicians have to study human and social interactions. Therefore gaining the fundamental qualifications that are most relevant to their vocation, before standing in a major election; for example a qualification in the understanding of social conflict, or at least the study of one or more of the social sciences would be a step in the right direction. Its a shame that a doctor has to study for 7years before becoming qualified, if he makes a mistake killing someone in his carer, he's in big trouble!... Yet a politician who can mess up society, inflame racial hatred' start wars displacing hundreds of thousands of people, needs no qualification in the field of understanding people. He can even be elected upon charismatic ability alone. All too often with little accountability for the scale his mistakes...

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