dear Tomas,

thank you so much for sharing with us those exciting moments .

be careful and wish you all the best on Everest.^-^

As a reader from china , i hope one day you would like to go to many other places in china and bring more funny stories to your friends and family.

thank you again dear dear mr reporter , we will always welcome you .

Jomolangma, the mount Everest, will not allow China to carry Beijjing Olympic torch to her summit.
She is ours.

Dear Tomas, it is a truly amusing and entertaining story, despites the little information you got from the officials. I bet Mr. Bin must be a solace for you after all those days of being confine at the camp, knowing nothing about what has been going beyond the Camp. I wonder if it is Mr. Bin’s own will to climb the mountain to jeopardize his life or he is being pushed to dot that. China does everything to get what she wants, killing, torturing, violate human rights. Communist party is the most skilled to make propaganda to brainwash people, hopefully they can’t do that to you journalists. Dear Mr. Tomas, do you believe every single word they say???
Good luck anyway
Richard

In the end, you said “Perhaps I should come back here one day, but not as a journalist.” Hehe, for me, the same dream.
___An ever-journalist in Lhasa.

to Tibetan -
Brother, hate will consume you, and you still can’t change history. Come back, work with your prople for a new tibet in the big family.

To all people living on this earth

I wish the olympic kindling can reach the roof of our earth and spread peace to all human beings.

Richard, why bash on China? Why you do not see how the west treated the Asian. Unitill now they are still killing and continue to kill.

How nmany Tibets are kelled by the China government. How many innocence people are killed daily including children.

Hypocrite go home. Do bash on other when you and yourself is not clean. Don’t think that justice is in your hand and you have the licence to kill and non of your people protested and the Asian are just keep quiet when you are doing the killing

This China’s intention to take the Olympic torch to the top of the world so as to provide a focal point. Now that it has drawn your attention on China as a nation, and also on Tibet. Whether Tibet should be an indepent enclave or part of China, people should look at history objectively (not from propaganda sources), and also the things China have done over the past decades in all the aspects. Chinese, like all human with dignity, would not do as people told, but do it the way they want to. Restablishment of trust between Dalai and China is vital because trust was totally lost after the CIA sponsored fighting in 1959.
Western countries bash China in name of free Tibet so as to lessen their colonial history over the Chinese (in particular in 1900 ) is understandable.

to spiker_mike,
How do you know I hate china? Is it because I am a Tibetan? Or is it because I protest torch relay through Tibet?

Everything has history. My books and pens have their own interesting history. But history is not something happens without any causes and conditions. We can change the course of history. Our history is our product.

I don’t need big family. I just need happy, peaceful, trustworthy, compassionate, loving, rational and broaded minded family. Then there is hope for happiness, freedom and prosperity.

Other wise better to stay separate as before 1959.

Tibet is already new.

Do you know how much she became new?
Deforestation……….never happened in the past. A new one.
Millions of Chinese staying in Tibet which makes Tibetans minority in their own homeland…………….never happened in the past. A new one.
Nuclear station for millitary purpose…………never happened in the past. A brand new one.
Sino Indian war faught in the area of Tibet and Indian border in 1962……….never happened in the past. A new one.

What do you expect from new Tibet?

Tomas - your news is excellent - thanks for keeping us informed - I met you in Namche in April and fired a whole bunch of questions at you!!! You had so much information and I cannot remember it all - where can I read about your knowledge and travels of Tibet? Keep well, keep warm and I hope you have success with your time in Tibet at Base Camp!!

Thomas,
i have been a guide on Nepal side of Everest for 8 years. I have reached the top 6 times. Let me be the 1st to ask, why is no one covering how China, via gauranteeing millions of euro loans to Nepal, that they have turned the Nepali side into a police state? Have you ever considered sending someone over there? at least the BBC was brave enough to try, and got kicked out. I have been speaking out about this behavior from China since 2006 when i reported on the shooting of a 17 year old nun on the NangPa La Pass on the border between Tibet and Nepal. Where is your coverage of both sides of the story? Has China bought CNN too?

What a great article. Wish I could travel around the world to one of the most beautiful countries and write nothing. Well, except for a few paragraphs about myself, which the writer did.

Maybe he could explain that he is in Tibet, not China and how the Chinese gov’t has systematically tried to exterminate the Tibetans for the last 50 years. It will go down and second only to the Holocaust in the last 100 years most likely.

I have been where he is. yes,it is cold. Yes, it is high. quit crying and give us some news instead of this crap. The Tibetans are amazing. So are the Chinese. It is just a shame the Chinese swallow the gov’t BS more than we do. Free Tibet and love live the Dalai Lama!

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Dear Tomáš,

thanks for your informations about the olympic´s torch case, I admire what you have done for not only CNN and also what you do for Czech Television in China. Wish you all the best and looking forward to your new articles!
Greetings from BRNO
Nela

Thanks for the nice pictures and reports fron the roof of the world.
How many Tibetans killed by CCP regime since 1950? Almost 60 years. Can anyone provide authentic real evidence rather than BS? A Holocaust? How about the number of innocent civilian Iraqis and Aghans killed by the Bush regime since 2002? Just 6 years. And how many serfs and slaves, raped, maimed, mutilated and killed by Dalai Lama’s regime in the 40’s and 50’s? I read reports somewhere that the Dalai Lama once had a mentor cum tutor from Hitler’s Nazi regime. What did he learnt from Hitler ? —> How to do a Holocaust all over again?
Go to Tibet and see for yourself. Tibetans today are more free and better off than at any time in their entire history. Don’t believe all the China bashings bullshit you read from Western news media.

Careful there Tomas! Good reporting. I’ll be Prague in August. Send me a note when you get some time.

Allen

To Peter: to be fair, do you have “authentic real evidence rather than BS” to substantiate your claims? Also remember that the Dalai is a Nobel peace laureate, and I think the Swedes are somewhat more credible than you at being an impartial authority. Why do all CCP supporters use the word “bash” whenever the CCP is criticized? Is that the only word they know? And unless you’re a Tibetan, I highly doubt you’d be in a position to judge their well-being compared to other times in “their entire history”; and even if you were a Tibetan, i similar doubt that you speak for all Tibetans.

SK if it is not BS, then can you provide authenticated proof of the actual numbers that I want to know. Please don’t make sweeping statements without proof. Dalai is a Nobel peace laureate? How do you know the Swedes are impartial? Can you read the minds of the Nobel committee?
The Nobel Peace Prize is a farce, it’s not credible. Nobel Peace prize committee has the bad habit of attempts to give legitimacy to prominent dissidents in order to show their support to further Western political agenda.
You don’t know the slightest mite about the Tibetans either. Have you been to Tibet or China? The Tibetan exiles who are mostly Lamas and dispossessed land owners and slave owners are the minority of all the Tibetans. They are the ones who routinely make wild exaggerated accusations of human rights violations in order to gain the sympathy and thus the financial aid from gullible sucker Westerners as well as their bootlickers.

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Red Flares on mountains!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Red Flares on mountains!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this Blog has certainly been ‘invaded’ by ‘happy happy joy joy’ people of a certain persuasion…..interesting!

leave politics aside

there are many other orgainizaitions, forums, or international bodies to discuss human rights, poverty, …….

olympic is just olympic, an event every four years for all people around to celebrate and enjoy

To Peter: I don’t have the numbers. Do you have the authentic numbers to back your statements about “serfs and slaves” etc? Who’s making sweeping statements now? I don’t know that the Swedes are perfectly impartial, but they certainly strike me as being more impartial than you. Look, if you always assume that everyone who disagrees with you is biased, then it makes for a very short discussion. How convenient for you. That you question the legitimacy of the Nobel Peace prize illustrates the depths of your illusions. I don’t claim to know anything about Tibetans; you do make such claims, however unfounded they might be. BTW, are you actually claiming that CCP China hasn’t committed human rights violations? That would be priceless.

That Tibetans before their liberation in 1950 were serfs and slaves is a fact. What numbers? You go check out yourself. Don’t sweep everything I said that doesn’t appeal to you under the carpet. I have said my piece on Nobel Peace Prize, let people judge for themselves, I don’t have to argue every point with you nor do I need to. Numerous other bloggers have said that you are in the bad habit of twisting and distorting other people’s words and stuffing words into other peoples mouth. That’s your way of evading giving straight answers, trying to twist and turn you way from dealing with the real issues. On your disingenuous claim about the CCP claim, those are your words not mine.

The above is for SK Cheung. You glib tongue is well known.

Sorry for my previous posting. It doesn’t belong here.
GO Olympics.

To Peter: no worries, you have your “facts”, I’ll stick with mine. I sleep well at night. Ahh, the “twist” word again. It seems many of your ilk have a vocabulary limited to twist, bash, and brainwash. If you can’t make a reasonable, coherent, and valid point, I have no sympathy for you anyhow. On dealing with “real issues”, you have similarly not shown me a capacity for such cerebral pursuits. Man that felt good to the tongue.

S.k Cheung,

I’m not sure what you’re trying to dispute. There’s no dispute from anyone, not even those in the Tibetan exile camp, that pre-1950 Tibetan society had a large serf “underclass” that were treated like property by the nobility. They were sold and exchanged, and the children of the serfs were also considered part of their property.

If you are unclear as to even these basic facts, then you need to educate yourself. You can start with Tsering Shakya (an exile Tibetan)’s excellent academic work about historical relations between China and Tibet.

If you don’t want to read an academic textbook, then you can read Tashi Tsering’s “A Struggle for Modern Tibet”. Tashi Tsering represents a Tibetan voice rarely heard in the West: the son of a slave family given to the religious class, in order to repay tax debts. He also went into exile along with the Dalai Lama, later studied in the US, but ultimately decided to return to China where he became a Maoist “Red Guard”.

Our blog has more thoughts about the Olympic torch on Everest, from the perspective of a few Chinese:

http://blog.speak4china.com/?p=58
http://blog.speak4china.com/?p=55

SK, you seem to arrogate that the only “reasonable, coherent, and valid” points are yours alone, any other points of view otherwise are
“not shown me a capacity for such cerebral pursuits”. Why should I show you anything? Who do you think you are, to be prosecutor and judge and jury at the same time? My opinion is as valid as anybody’s. Don’t be so arragant and so judgemental.
I have encountered people of your ilk too. Their vocabulary is limited just to anti-CCP bashing. What’s your beef with the CCP anyway? May I attempt to make an intelligent guess? Are you a fugitive dissident committed some form of crime in China or perhaps HK. Or maybe you participated at Tiananmen Square uprising and had to run.

To Peter: I never said you weren’t entitled to your opinion, just as I am to mine. I don’t find yours “reasonable, coherent, or valid”, but I’m simply stating my opinion, to which I hope you agree I’m entitled. You don’t seem shy about expressing your views on the nature of my opinions, so why are you getting so sensitive now? Is it only a one-way street in your world? Ahh, another “bash” phrase. Quite original, I must say. Another “quality” with CCP-sympathizers like you is the incessant need to “guess” at the background of fellow bloggers. For me, your background is of no consequence. But hey, guess away, for it’s another of the rights that western society affords.

SK, I quote you right, now don’t you try to twist yourself out this one. Don’t try to rephrase your own words with you glib tongue now.
I quote you again ““not shown me a capacity for such cerebral pursuits”. Compare this with your previous comment. I grant you it’s a slip of the tongue.
Another tired old “CCP-sympathizers ” refrain from a typical brainwashed pro-Western bootlicker. Quite original, I must say. I’m just quoting you.
It’s of interesting to know your background. It can shed some light on your dogged persistence and strong motivation of your “Cold War” mentality. You must be very tired by now fighting many so-called “CCP-sympathizers ” on all fronts.

To Peter: what is your problem with English? You haven’t shown me a capacity for cerebral pursuits. Does that opinion bother you? Would you like me to say it again? What am I twisting, exactly? No slip of tongue whatsoever. If you want me to say that I think you’re intellectually challenged 20 different ways, I’d be happy to oblige…just say the word, pal! Regardless of my impression of the quality of your opinion, you’re still entitled to it. I find my position entirely consistent with my earlier post.
I do find you copying my phrasing quite a bit. No problem, there’s no charge. I guess imitation is the highest form of flattery. So thanks, I guess.
I also wonder why you so blindly support the CCP. To each his own I guess. If CCP-supporter and CCP-sympathizer doesn’t fit, maybe CCP-apologist?
Guys like you are a sport for me. So keep the weird logic coming. It’s good comic relief.

SK, I quote you “I also wonder why you so blindly support the CCP”. Similarly, I also wonder why you so blindly support the Western imperialist clique. Until you tell us the reason why you’re so anti-CCP, to each his own I guess.
I quote you “Guys like you are a sport for me, It’s good comic relief.”
I think I have better things to do, like catching up on my tennis lessons.

To Tang: Thank you for the blog links. I will be sure to check them out. I do not seek to dispute history; however, i do dispute the “logic” that historical events justify present-day oppression of the Tibetan people. Even if average Tibetans were liberated by the PLA in the 50’s and were thankful for same, does not mean that they welcome continued CCP presence in their land today.

To Peter: yes, why you support the CCP and why I don’t will remain a mystery to both of us. I’m fine with that. Good luck with your groundstrokes…no logic required for that, just the physics of topspin.